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Release runs and APFT

Postby galarad113 Wed Nov 18, 2015 9:16 am

I know during OCS there are is a 3, 4, and 5 mile release run that will affect your OML score and the minimum times vary. Does anyone have an idea on what a good time or pace is to score high? I can run 2 miles in 13:45 min, 3 miles in 21:00 min, and 4 miles in 29:00 min. I'm not necessarily sure about 5 miles but definitely under 40:00 min. I know I'm not the best runner but I still want to be in the leading pack. Regarding the APFT score, what if someone scores higher than 300? I sometimes see people say they got a 317...how does that contribute to the overall picture?
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Postby Chakotay Wed Nov 18, 2015 1:10 pm

I'm at OCS as we speak. As of right now, release have been cut from the program. I know for certain our class isn't doing them. Of course that could always change for upcoming cycles, but OCS is transforming a lot, and as for now, release runs are cut.
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Postby nchopp Wed Nov 18, 2015 3:34 pm

<starts into the "What?!? Back when I was at OCS" diatribe, realizes he's getting old, and goes to cry>
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Postby galarad113 Thu Nov 19, 2015 6:58 pm

Thanks guys!!!
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Postby bushleaguer Fri Nov 20, 2015 9:58 am

For those in now, Whose units run more than a couple miles more than once a week?

I've seen a trend with PRT that almost eliminates running.
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Postby Chakotay Fri Nov 20, 2015 10:51 am

For those in now, Whose units run more than a couple miles more than once a week?

I've seen a trend with PRT that almost eliminates running.
There are only 2 units in right now, Bravo and Charlie. Neither are running more than once a week though. First week was the APFT. Second week was the Company run (5 miles.) And third week was aa 20 minute AGR.

But yes, the trend is away from longer runs. 30/60s and 60/120s are still programmed once or twice a week and one medium distance run a week. But that's about it.
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Postby SonicAbuse Fri Nov 20, 2015 8:31 pm

<starts into the "What?!? Back when I was at OCS" diatribe, realizes he's getting old, and goes to cry>
inconceivable!
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Postby JSin Sat Nov 21, 2015 2:35 pm

For those in now, Whose units run more than a couple miles more than once a week?

I've seen a trend with PRT that almost eliminates running.
I'm not there, but I would place money on the fact that units at Bragg are still running. 4-5 times a week.
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Postby nchopp Sat Nov 21, 2015 8:31 pm

For those in now, Whose units run more than a couple miles more than once a week?

I've seen a trend with PRT that almost eliminates running.
Hardly any distance running here in AIT land. Occasionally I would take A train on a five or six mile run, but it was rare.
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Postby cnicook Sat Nov 21, 2015 8:36 pm

Coming from the career course at Gordon we ran every day we had PT, which was three days a week MWF. I was the PT officer though, so it was my plan that we followed. I grew up at Campbell though, so running five times a week is normal to me.
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Postby ddro13 Mon Nov 23, 2015 6:39 am

I just graduated with Alpha and we ran AGRs around 3 times a week. Our CO ran in the A group with us and he was fast. I was seeing stars almost every time running 4-5 miles at what he said was a 6:45min/mile pace.
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Postby Killjoy8541 Wed Dec 16, 2015 11:52 pm

AGRs will happen often. Yes, no more release runs. As per the new ISAP, If you drop from the Grad run, you get recycled. If your running ability is substandard, make sure you get some extra cardio in, especially during Senior Phase.
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Postby dcol Sat Dec 19, 2015 9:26 pm

What is the pace/distance for the grad run?
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Postby Killjoy8541 Sat Dec 19, 2015 10:26 pm

What is the pace/distance for the grad run?
4ish miles at approx 9:30 min mile.
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Postby dcol Mon Dec 21, 2015 3:53 am

Doable. Thank you for the information!
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Re: Release runs and APFT

Postby Schwar3066 Sat Jan 06, 2018 8:05 pm

Apologies for resurrecting an old thread, but are release runs still no longer part of OCS these days? And if they are, when referring to a “cut off” of 22-23 mins, is that for OML purposes or does this also apply to USAR / NG?

Thanks in advance!
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Re: Release runs and APFT

Postby kniqhto Sun Jan 07, 2018 6:22 pm

If you go to the Fort Benning OCS website, perusing around you'll find a 12-week training plan. On the last slide of the PDF slide-deck, the graduation requirements are listed. The release runs are no longer an evaluated event for graduation purposes.
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Re: Release runs and APFT

Postby Schwar3066 Sun Jan 07, 2018 7:45 pm

Kniqhto- much appreciated, great resource.
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Re: Release runs and APFT

Postby WhiskeyPapa79brat Tue Jan 23, 2018 10:58 am

If you go to the Fort Benning OCS website, perusing around you'll find a 12-week training plan. On the last slide of the PDF slide-deck, the graduation requirements are listed. The release runs are no longer an evaluated event for graduation purposes.
Copy and pasted this:
Meet Army height & weight standards
 Pass two APFTs – initial & final
 Complete the Obstacle and Confidence Course
 Achieve above 70% on all 9 academic tests
 Pass day/night land navigation test
 Complete a 5-mile run at a 9 minute pace
 Complete a 3-mile, 6-mile, 9-mile and 12-mile foot march
 Pass 70% of evaluated leadership positions (Garrison & Field)
The only question I have is if the height & weight standards mean making the BMI standard, or are you allowed to get through by being taped? It would be easy for me to stay under 190 lbs at 5'10" to make the requirement. I tend to sit at 185+ fairly lean, so it is of a bit of interest to me though.

Also which of these items are graded outside of pass/fail for the OML?

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